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Auction type: Deal Tank
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Vehicle Details


  • Year: 2016
  • Make: Ferrari
  • Model: FF
  • VIN: ZFF73SKA6G0213599
  • Mileage: 13,700
  • Transmission: Automatic
  • Title Status: Clean
  • Color: Rosso Corsa
  • Seller Type: Dealer
  • Location: New Orleans, LA 70118
  • Dealer Fees: None
  • Lot #: V-0032711-DT

Ferrari’s first production all-wheel-drive model, the Ferrari FF was introduced as a two-door four-seater grand touring car at the 2011 Geneva Motor Show features styling by Pininfarina and the largest road-going Ferrari engine ever produced, the 6.3-liter F140EB V12 producing 650 HP. This 2016 example comes finished Rosso Corsa over tan Cuoio leather and is optioned with 20” forged diamond-cut wheels, a carbon fiber steering wheel with LEDs, a carbon fiber central bridge, stitched headrests, red brake calipers, and Scuderia fender shields. It also features an upgraded exhaust, aftermarket carbon fiber shift paddles, and yellow PIAA fog lights. This final-year Ferrari FF is now being offered for auction by its seller out of Louisiana while showing under 14k miles on the odometer.

The shooting brake design of the FF was styled by Pininfarina and shares its distinctive twin circular taillights with the 458 Italia and 599 GTB Fiorano. It features a prominent “egg crate” grille, quad exhaust pipes, side skirts, a rear diffuser, and a power-operated rear hatch. This example comes finished in traditional Rosso Corsa complemented by optional red brake calipers and Scuderia fender shields. The factory-optioned 20” forged diamond-cut wheels have been wrapped in black vinyl, the windows have been tinted, and aftermarket PIAA yellow fog lights have been installed. Clear paint protection film is applied over the full front end as well as Scrapeguard front bumper coverage. The car rides on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires from 2021. Detailed images are provided in the gallery along with a clean CARFAX report.

The cabin is appointed with tan Cuoio leather and features an optional carbon fiber central bridge and a carbon fiber steering wheel with LED rev counter lights. Other options include a panoramic roof, a high-power HiFi sound system, and Cavallino-stitched headrests. Aftermarket Carbonio carbon fiber shifter paddles have been installed along with custom diamond-stitched floor mats with red binding and yellow Ferrari emblems.

The FF is powered by a naturally aspirated 6.3-liter V12 engine rated at 650 HP and 504 lb.-ft of torque. The wheels are driven by a 7-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission paired with Ferrari’s 4RM all-wheel-drive system. The chassis also includes adaptive dampers, double-wishbone front suspension, electric speed-sensitive power steering, carbon ceramic brakes, an E-Diff electronic rear differential, and F1 Trac traction control. This example features a Bomiz stainless-steel valved exhaust system with a Rev 9 X-pipe for increased power and sound. Maintenance history is provided on the CARFAX report and the seller states an annual oil and filter service was performed in June 2023.

This sale will include owner’s manuals, the original window sticker, a toolkit, an air pump, a car cover, a battery charger, and a clean title.

 
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  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @jameson123 you are referring to the joint effort between Parkes Performance and Simon Stojsavljevic. If one were to go read the relevant page on their website, it substantiates what I've said here. Some parts are not available "off the shelf," even if they were, you may choose not to install certain ones. For example, in my case, a custom bronze seal housing was machined out of necessity. They also use upgraded O-Rings and gaskets. In fact, they don't even use the "stock" fork assemblies that come new on the car. I do not know if they would say their kit would still require new refresh servicing at or around an 8-10 year mark. Good question to ask them. The next question is, even if you bought that kit in the USA, you need a qualified person to do the installation (ideally someone that has already done several PTU rebuilds). Micah (Hollywood Mechanic) did mine and has done quite a few of these. UK customers could probably just leave the car at Parkes as the best option.

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @scuderiasmith and @curiousoffice - I learned a lot today, thank you guys. Do you know if anyone in the US is doing what that company in the UK is doing regarding rebuilding the PTU with an improved design? Their rebuild/redesign is supposedly <$10k and solves the problem with the original PTU. Is there anywhere in the US I can go for something similar?

  • Ehrenbragg (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @scuderiasmith and @curiousoffice - you guys are a complete WEALTH of information and I really appreciate you sharing it with the community. Wasn't sure what direction that conversation was going, but glad you guys ended up where you did! lol

  • ScuderiaSmith (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @curiousoffice, agreed, we are indeed saying the same things and your comments about the fluids are spot on. You are also correct that anyone who buys an FF should budget funds for maintenance. Its always surprised me that guys and gals buy their first Ferrari without doing any research about what it costs to own one of these cars. As for me, I daily a 458 Specialie and an FF. My wife has an FF as well. We have owned a total of 8 FF's and I have enjoyed all of them! The idea you can buy a 400k sticker FF for around 150k makes the car a great bargain and they are fun to drive! If I can ever help you with parts or advice for your car, you now have another source!

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    By the way, for fun, someone should call any American Ferrari dealer and ask "will you rebuild my PTU with a 'factory' service kit?" Let me know what they say. I know what Salt Lake Ferrari says.

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @ScuderiaSmith I am not sure we're substantially saying different things. Can we agree that the prices for rebuild would actually depend on what the issue is once you tear down the PTU and DCT? For example, here's an example of part number 70004198 at a price of $24,195.
    https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/424353/ferrari/70004198/ccp4-kit.html

    If you need a speed sensor kit, that's great. One may need to get both units out and inspect them. Could be several issues that add up to why we're having this conversation. Heat Generation: Over time, the high temperatures can cause the fluid to break down, reducing its effectiveness as a lubricant. Contaminants: The fluid in the PTU can accumulate metal shavings and other contaminants from the normal wear and tear of gears and bearings. As these contaminants build up, they can create an abrasive mixture that can accelerate wear on seals and bearings. Fluid Breakdown: Over time, the protective additives in the fluid can degrade. These additives are crucial for preventing corrosion, reducing friction, and maintaining the fluid's viscosity. Once they break down, the fluid's protective qualities diminish, making components more susceptible to damage. Chemical Changes: As the fluid ages, it might undergo chemical changes that increase its acidity. An acidic environment can be detrimental to seals, leading to premature wear and potential leaks.

    In terms of cost of carbon discs (for example), it has nothing to do with my area. Anyone can call any Ferrari dealer anywhere in the country and ask what the CCM price is. If you also need pads (as my 23,000 mile car did) plus added service costs for install and subsequent alignment, I'm not far off. +/- $5k Again, that's if you want a Ferrari dealer to do the work. Sounds like your pricing for carbon discs is good if OEM. That's great. I went with steel because I just use this as a fun commuter car. $4k total.

    Anyway. As I said, in many ways we might be saying the same thing. That is, anyone buying and FF should probably plan on transmission servicing work. You said, $16k-$20k for serving. I said $45k for a brand new one (which is about right per Ferrari). I didn't buy a brand new one. I serviced mine.

  • ScuderiaSmith (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @curiousoffice, I'm not sure you understand. I have a Ferrari repair and engine shop and we do the rebuilds on the DCT and PTU here in Dallas. I own Scuderia Smith Motorsports in Plano, TX. I also own an OEM Ferrari and Maserati parts company in Florida, Veloce Parts. As for the discs, I will sell you PN 315457 x 2 for $3750 each and 296894 x 2 for $3750.00 each, brand new, from the factory with warranty. Price does not include shipping but that wont be more than $250.00. Feel free to look me up if you would like to order a set of discs for your FF.

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @ScuderiaSmith that is a speed sensor kit. That is not a PTU rebuild. Part of the issue is that discovery would be required to know what to rebuild. And. It's not as though all parts in the PTU are easily attainable. Also, how do you source "OEM" FF carbon discs from Ferrari (or anyone) for $3,750 each? Can you substantiate this claim?

  • ScuderiaSmith (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @curiousoffice, I posted the incorrect link for the Step 3 Speed Sensor DCT kit, here is the correct one-

    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/part/ferrari/70004182

  • ScuderiaSmith (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @curiousoffice, they most certainly do. Here is a link to them (anyone can buy them and they are readily available)-

    FF DCT repair kits- https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/Diagram/Ferrari/FF/025-Gearbox-Repair-Kit

    PTU repair kits- https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/diagram/ferrari/ff/027-ptu-repair-kit

    The most popular repair kit for the FF is the Step 3 Speed Sensor kit, PN 7004182 which can be found here-

    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/Diagram/Ferrari/FF/025-Gearbox-Repair-Kit

    If someone told you they don't make repair kits, I would seek out another source for parts and service for your FF.

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @ScuderiaSmith the factory does not make rebuild kits for the PTU and gearbox.

  • ScuderiaSmith (registered bidder) 1 monthago

    @Ehrenbragg, the comments by @curiousoffice may be the pricing for where they live but here in Dallas-

    1. The factory makes specific gearbox and PTU service kits for the FF that are readily available to shops like mine. To rebuild the DCT and PTU including the removal and re-installation generally runs $16,000.00-$20,000.00.

    2. The chances of your needing to replace the CCM discs on the FF are slim. The discs on the car should last (depending on driving style) 50,000-60,0000+ miles. As a reference, we have several clients over 50k on their 458's and FF's and are on their first set of discs.

    3. I can sell you a set of four new, Ferrari OEM CCM discs for the FF for $15,000.00.

    4. A complete set of Ferrari OEM pads for the FF will run you $3,000.00.

    If you have other, specific questions, I am happy to help and you can find me at Scuderia Smith Motorsports in Plano, TX. Hope this helps!

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    @Ehrenbragg yes of course. If you are looking at one of these cars on BAT, pCar, Cars&Bids or anywhere else, you MUST budget $45k for the new PTU at minimum. That is, if you take the car to Ferrari for servicing. In their nomenclature, "servicing" means they order a new PTU and (if needed) a new rear transmission (as I already mentioned). The Power Transfer Unit (PTU) for the Ferrari FF was manufactured by GKN Driveline, a British-based company known for its drivetrain components. Ferrari sourced it from them (it was co-developed between Ferrari and GKN). The rear is Getrag 7DCL750 and is $40,000 for new replacement. Carbon discs, if worn are $45k to replace all four. Rebuilding the PTU and addressing rear transmission will range between $23k-$35k depending on what you find in the rear transmission. Again, not a Ferrari dealer service offering. For example, are syncros worn or not worn? Which ones? How many? Etc. The challenge is that very few are qualified to rebuild either the PTU or the rear DCT. Do your homework.

  • Ehrenbragg (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    @curiousoffice can you share the estimated cost of the rebuild, please?

  • Ehrenbragg (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    $140K seems like all the money on this car.

  • curiousoffice (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Just left the shop minutes ago, where my FF has been. I can share some useful information for owners or prospective owners. The transmissions in these cars have fairly caustic fluids that essentially eat through seals and bearings after around 6-8 years. Mileage does not matter. If the car sits in the garage for 8 years and does 5 miles? The same service is likely to be required. You either buy new trans from Ferrari (they don’t rebuild them) or you find someone who can pull together a kit of parts to execute the rebuild themselves. Do I have a guy? Of course. Happy to share. But the point is, the service bill is due (in most cases) no matter the mileage around these timeframes. Still, the car is the best value 12-cylinder Ferrari and I will rebuild my transmission again 8 years from now :)

  • Tuba1945 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Agreed

  • jmorin (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Light spec. Surprised it didn't sell.

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    14k 2016 ff on BAT sold at $142k yesterday

    40k 2016 model with a new PTU and warranty on CAB sold today at $123k

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $140,000

  • chapperVR 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $139,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $137,250

  • coys 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $137,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $135,250

  • coys 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $135,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $126,000

  • rogi16012 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $125,500

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $125,250

  • jameson123 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $125,000

  • rogi16012 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $124,000

  • chapperVR 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $123,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $120,250

  • jameson123 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $120,000

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $118,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $117,250

  • chapperVR 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $117,000

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $115,250

  • chapperVR 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $115,000

  • soflo1234 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $111,111

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $110,000

  • soflo1234 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $108,750

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $108,500

  • soflo1234 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $106,500

  • coys 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $106,000

  • Nolasport (seller) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Thanks for the kind words @edgy4sure !

  • edgy4sure (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    FYI to all bidders, Nolasport is a great seller - bid with confidence!

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $105,000

  • Ranger902 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $101,250

  • Nolasport (seller) 1 month, 1 weekago

    1. Any check engine lights?
    No
    2. Are the CATs stock?
    All of the infromation I have for the exhaust/cats has already been included in the listing/comments.
    3. How many pairs of keys?
    Two keys
    4. Do you know when the PTU gear oil was replaced?
    No
    5. Are the stock exhausts included in the sale? (shipping paid separately)
    Yes, buyer pays for shipping however correct. (Would not feel good about sticking them in the trunk with the car!)
    6. How much to have your shop replace the exhaust back to stock?
    Not certain on what book time is/would be for a job like that and we typically don't pre-quote on more unique cars like these since the jobs can turn rather complex very easily... thus being said my shops labor rate is $155/hour.
    7. Any air bubbles or flaws in the interior? What about exterior?
    Please see the professionally shot hi res photos for condition inside and out, the car is mint.
    8. Is the controller on the center console for fog lights or exhaust? Will it leave any damage if removed?
    Controler on center console is for exhaust modes, appears to just be double stick taped on there so no damage if removed, no.
    9. Are you offering any warranty from your shop?
    No warranty from my shop comes with the car, no.

    My client is the Alaskan owner, yes. The car has never been to Alaska... it's in New Orleans and has remained here under his entire ownership.

    PPF? Great shape (not showing any signs of age at all) ... front cap of course includes mirrors, fenders, hood, and bumper. There are smaller "stone guards" near the rear of the rockers which I assume are factory. The only "seam" is at the very top of the hood, I assume it was because it's such a large panel? Regardless, the seem is absolutely perfect and straight, the only time you notice it is when you wash it... hope this helps!

    Jameson, with all due respect, if you do that... I'll set aside $30K as well assuming a hurricane rips the roof off of my house this year. You know what I mean? Best of luck to you and all the other bidders!! Just over 4 hours left on this FF!

  • CorsaCollections 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $100,000

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Without more details on the PTU, will assume it's still on the original unit and need to budget $34000 for the inevitable failure and repair.

  • soflo1234 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $90,000

  • jameson123 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $87,750

  • Ranger902 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $87,500

  • Tomcab26 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $85,000

  • wanna123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Any PPF issues? visible seams? Edges peeling or? Are all edges wrapped or visible? Love car but I am in the minority camp as I hate PPF especially old PPF.

  • Solaia22 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $82,000

  • soflo1234 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $81,000

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    @nolasport is your client the most recent owner with registration in Alaska? How was the car treated in the cold weather? Do you know the reason they've moved it up there?

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    @nolasport thanks for the info. A few more questions:

    1. Any check engine lights?
    2. Are the CATs stock?
    3. How many pairs of keys?
    4. Do you know when the PTU gear oil was replaced?
    5. Are the stock exhausts included in the sale? (shipping paid separately)
    6. How much to have your shop replace the exhaust back to stock?
    7. Any air bubbles or flaws in the interior? What about exterior?
    8. Is the controller on the center console for fog lights or exhaust? Will it leave any damage if removed?
    9. Are you offering any warranty from your shop?

    Thanks!

  • PCARMARKET 1 month, 1 weekago

    Additional content has been added to the gallery for this listing.

  • Nolasport (seller) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Morning bidders, all of the service records that I have were sent to the auction manager and will be added to the gallery shortly in addition to the most recent service performed by my shop and a copy of the correlating inspection sheet. I do not have any record of the PTU servicing/replacement, no. Fog lights could be easily removed and leave no signs of evidence, absolutely. The FF has a full front cap of PPF and Ardex Ceramic Coating which was installed by a detailer of mine here locally within the last year... the PPF was on the car already when I sourced it for my client back in 2022. Please the video in the listing for the exhaust clips, three different modes for all styles of driving! Low options assuming we are basing that on MSRP? Sure... but I can assure you it doesn't feel/look like anyhting is missing when you are in the drivers seat! Previous owners per carfax is always subjective... dealer took possesion of title, owner moved, owner paid of lien... all of these things create additional owners per carfax. The way the car shows/drives does not create any worry in my mind about how many people have owned it or even who they were... all I can tell you is that they took great care of the car itself!! Please see the video in the listing in regards to the exhaust questions, short answer would be that it's not really overly loud at all until you get up higher in the RPM's (nothing you should encounter in the neighborhood). Stock exhaust is available to be shipped if desired, yes. PTU info, see above. No faults present or any issues with the 4WD system and it's corresponding drive modes. Aftermarket exhaust passed safety inspection in TX although I'm not sure if it was emissions tested or not. We do not emissions test here in New Orleans either so I don't have any information to offer on that personally. Of course each city/state is totally different in what they allow/look for... The dealer I purchased the car from on behalf of my client did tell me that it does still have Cats. Regardless stock system is available if requested/needed. This FF was a replacement for my client's 599 GTB, and it more than met his needs. The way the car sits with its mods and all is how it was when we purchased it... everything was tasteful enough in my clients opinion that we left it just the way it was... it needed absolutely nothing up until its annual maintenance that was just performed by my shop. I hope all of this info sheds some light on this "Ferrari Red" final year FF! And best of luck to everyone as we have just over a day left on auction here for this piece of Italian art!

  • Dina (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Service records specifically ptu learned my lessons w my f430 this car is out of dealer warranty

  • bents (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Same question as below re: PTU

  • JJW007 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $80,000

  • jameson123 (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    I like the build, but the number of options is low and the high number of previous owners is concerning. In addition to the questions below, can you shed some light on:

    1. How much louder is the custom exhaust? The FF is known to be a loud car as is and I'm slightly concerned about waking up the entire neighborhood to pull out of my garage.
    2. Do you have the stock exhaust?
    3. Any issues with the PTU? Has it been serviced or replaced? Any errors pointing to Wet Mode Only or Four Wheel Drive system failure?
    4. Will the aftermarket exhaust have trouble passing emissions? The rev9 page indicates that it's for "Off-Road And Competition Use Only Due To Federal Emission Regulations"

  • card24 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $50,000

  • Solaia22 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $45,678

  • card24 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $30,000

  • Tuba1945 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $20,250

  • megnlily 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $20,000

  • card24 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $15,000

  • ClockWerks 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $11,000

  • megnlily 1 month, 1 weekago

    Bid in the amount of $10,000

  • mbarturbo (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    Great looking FF. Couple of questions; are the F/R fog lights easily removable without leaving noticable evidence of prior installation? Are there service records available other than what is listed on Carfax? Any PTU service history? Any PPF or ceramic? Would love to have a cold and warm start clips to hear the exhaust! Thanks!

  • mikeammain (registered bidder) 1 month, 1 weekago

    love the FF. Best Ferrari ever built. FWD, V12, really fast, lots of space, many mpg, real 4 seater with acceptable luggage compartment

  • Magicalmachine 1 month, 2 weeksago

    Bid in the amount of $1,000

DT: 14k-Mile 2016 Ferrari FF
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